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Someone on GoldenSkate gets it right on Rachael
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Chilly8
2011-11-25 04:35:50 UTC
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Someone on GoldenSkate has gottne it right. Rachael Flatt
trying to go to college and maintain a skating carreer is not
sustainable.

I said that on our website at Alpha Crucis Radio quite
some time ago. This is why I don't see Rachael
coming anywheres NEAR the podium at the final
stop of the Masters tour. The travel required, and
trying to maintain a college education are JUST
NOT COMPATABLE.

Travelling and college are just NOT very compatable.
Take it from someone who started their online radio
station while they were in college. Take it from
someone who knows. It requires being on the
road a LOT. Doing that, while I was in college,
back in the 1990s, was difficult, and the courses
I had for business are NOTHING compared
to what she will have to take for a chemical
engineering degree. Something had to give,
and it was obviously her skating.

As I have said before, Rachael has bitten off
more than she can chew trying to skate, and
go to college at the same time, and at least
one poster at GoldenSkate seems to think the
same way I do on the subject.

The one user is right. Her student/skater schedule is NOT
sustainable, and that user is SPOT ON in their comment on that.

I would have LOVED to have posted this in the
GoldenSkate forum itself, but I don't want the admins
there to have to put up with the bullshit of dgs and his
pals from rec.travel.air, who would SURELY find me
there, if I DID post on there, so just lurk there from
time to time. You never know when I will be lurking
on either site.
Chilly8
2011-11-25 12:44:27 UTC
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And it looks like I have been proven right. While
she did not fall all over the place, like she did when
Worlds were here in Cookstown, you could see how
sluggish her skating was, to a point.

Of course, it is a very long flight down here from
California, The air route that the likely took between
California and Eduarda is 13,757 statute miles, so
anyone would be tired after a long trip like that and
would take a few days to recover from such a
voyage, And it showed in her skating today here
at Skate Eduarda.

The provies that the one GS user was right when
she said her schedule of skating and school is not
sustainable.
Thomas Groom
2011-11-25 18:37:13 UTC
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And it looks like I have crapped my pants.
It always looks like that for you.
Chilly8
2011-11-25 19:55:16 UTC
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Post by Chilly8
Of course, it is a very long flight down here from
California, The air route that the likely took between
California and Eduarda is 13,757 statute miles
Oc course, that is going through DC, via Dakar
and Johannesburg. It would be shorter going through
Houston, but there are NO flights from SFO into
IAH. There are flights into Hobby from SFO, but
NOT into IAH.

And there are NO nonstop IAD-JNB flight, so
to the folks from rec.travel.air, don't get me
started on that.

There is another way, that probably is longer,
in total miles, through Ognia and Argentina.
I am headed to DC next week to broadcast
any vote on the Protect IP Act, that comes up,
and I have heard it might come, so I am headed
for DC on that route. Otherwise, I would have
a 24 hour layover in South Africa. The JNB-
Dakar-IAD flight is timed for early morning
arrival, and the flight from Cookstown into
JNB arrives just a little too late to make the
connection for the JNB-Dakar-IAD run.

Mao Asada is in the lead, after the short,
which I predicted she would be. She is competing
against an otherwise weak ladies field in this one.
Alena Leonova is a very close second, higher
that what I thought she would be.

The other American in the field, Cristina Gao
had a disastrus skate, and left the ice in
tears.

Among other Antarctican skaters, Sofia
Biryukova, of Bellinsguazenia, is in fourth
after the short, Agnes Zawadski of Australia
is in 7th, and Amelia LaCoste (born in
Bellinaguazenia, skates for Canada), is
in 9th after the short program.
Thomas Groom
2011-11-25 20:35:14 UTC
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Oc course, that is going through my
shitstained pants.
It always is.
Jeanne Douglas
2011-11-26 03:26:12 UTC
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Post by Chilly8
Post by Chilly8
Of course, it is a very long flight down here from
California, The air route that the likely took between
California and Eduarda is 13,757 statute miles
Oc course, that is going through DC, via Dakar
and Johannesburg. It would be shorter going through
Houston, but there are NO flights from SFO into
IAH. There are flights into Hobby from SFO, but
NOT into IAH.
How can their be flights to a place that doesn't exist.
--
JD

"the lybian lier"
Chilly8
2011-11-27 19:06:32 UTC
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(Well, between that, and the fact that you're probably banned for life
from there...)
I have a working and valid user ID at GoldenSkate. It is Figure Skating
Universe that I am banned from, not GS. I was banned from FSU 5
years ago, becuase someone got the idea that stats can be copyrighted.
I have never had any problems with GoldenSkate, and I want to keep
it that way, which is why I rarely, if ever, post there. I have one
username,
which nobody would ever recognise as me. I am very careful on
there, between this one FSU admin who could also be lurking on
GoldenSkate, as well as dgs, and his pals.

The admins at GoldenSkate probably don't even know who
I am. Which is why I lurk, but rarely, if ever, login or post.
I want to keep it that way, so I am careful not to attract
their attention.

You never know when I might be lurking there reading
the threads. The same with the portions of FSU that
do not require a login. I read threads on both sites quite
often.
Chilly8
2011-11-28 10:42:31 UTC
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Some people in the thread speak of skaters being overscored. There
is actually more than than is being said. I believe the ISU is certainly
well
aware of the addage that "sex sells".

Rachael Flatt and Kesenia Makrova are, without question, the
sexiest ladies of the current crop. And I think this could be causing
both to perhaps get inflated scores.

Event though Russia could probably do better sending
Sotnikova or Tuktamisheva, they will end up sending
Makrova.

Even before COP, I can think of some skaters
that probably got inflated marks on account of
this. Nicole Bobeck, in her day, was one of the
sexiest skaters of her genration, and I think the
sex-sells addage might well have led to her
getting inflated scores. Both Ice Skating
Australia and the USFSA did this. Look
at Nicole's 17th place finish at the 1998
Olympics. I am sure that Ice Skating Australia
could have done much better.

Another skater that was certainly overscored
was Elena Sokolova, who will also go down
in history as one of the sexist skaters of
her generation. Even with Russian womens skating
going down the loo, they could have done much
better. Sure, she might have one one world silver,
but that is the only major international medal she
ever won.

It will be very interesting to see what happens
at the CIS Championships in Kharkhov. Will
the Russian federtion go on the sex-sells mantra
and put Makarova on the world team? Or will
they go with someone much better.

It will be interesting to see what happens after
the North American championships. Will the
Skating Establishment fall for the sex-sells
mantra and put Rachael on the team, who
will surely bomb at Worlds?

Given the latest line from this one online
sportsbook, only accessible through Tor,
America might well only get to send ONE
lady to 2013 Worlds. The latest line has
Rachael finsihing no higher than 16th,
and Alissa finsihing 5th. That would give
America only ONE lady for the 2013
Worlds, if that came to pass.

And the sex-sells mantra is not limited
to ladies either. I believe one reason
why Evan won Olympics, despite the fact
that Evgeni had a better skate, was the
fact that Evan is a 6 ft 3 hunk of a man,
a rareity in mens skating. He projects the
kind of image that the Skating Establishment
wants.

It is very rare for a hunk of a man like that
to exist in skating. Its a wonder some girl
somewhere has not latched onto him yet.

Evgeny Plushenko clearly had a better skate
and certainly merited much higher marks.

That is also likely why Johnnie Wehr never
won any major international medals. He did
not project the "hunk" image that the Skating
Establishment wants to see in mens skating.

And it did for a while bring a lot more women
into the figure skating audience. The listeners
we got from some figure skating broadcasts was
enough, for a while, for my station to be
listed in "Athena 365" subsection of the
Live 365 site, which is aimed at women.
We must have picked up a large female
audience during our broadcasts of the
Olympics.

I do think that if Evgeni had been given
the gold over Evan, the judges would have
had to vammoose right quickly, becuase
the women there in the arena would have
torn them apart.
Jeanne Douglas
2011-11-28 21:41:20 UTC
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Post by Chilly8
Given the latest line from this one online
sportsbook,
And what online sportsbook would that be?
Post by Chilly8
only accessible through Tor,
America might well only get to send ONE
lady to 2013 Worlds. The latest line has
Rachael finsihing no higher than 16th,
and Alissa finsihing 5th. That would give
America only ONE lady for the 2013
Worlds, if that came to pass.
Wow. You can't even add 2 simple numbers together.

16 + 5 = 21

You have to be 28 or under to get 2 women.

Chuckie epic fails once again.
--
JD

"the lybian lier"
Jeanne Douglas
2011-11-28 21:43:03 UTC
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Post by Chilly8
And the sex-sells mantra is not limited
to ladies either. I believe one reason
why Evan won Olympics, despite the fact
that Evgeni had a better skate,
No, he didn't. He just had a bunch of jumps with absolutely no content
between the jumps. Which means he lost.
Post by Chilly8
was the
fact that Evan is a 6 ft 3 hunk of a man,
a rareity in mens skating. He projects the
kind of image that the Skating Establishment
wants.
Evan ain't no hunk, I don't care how tall he is.
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JD

"the lybian lier"
Jeanne Douglas
2011-11-28 21:44:16 UTC
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Post by Chilly8
I do think that if Evgeni had been given
the gold over Evan, the judges would have
had to vammoose right quickly, becuase
the women there in the arena would have
torn them apart.
Why would they have done that. Evgeni is absolutely adorable, certainly
more attractive than Evan.
--
JD

"the lybian lier"
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