Trump threatens to cancel funding for UC Berkeley

[Fritz Owl]

[subject line restored]
[hogwash snipped]
Those articles you keep quoting are all a bunch of psychobbble hogwash. I
consider pychology, as a college major, to be a waster of tuition money.

And still you refuse to tell us what, precisely, in that article is
"hogwash". Why is that?

So-called "trolls" are NOT psychos or anything else. If that were the case,
a sizeable chunk of Internet users, including some Congressm Senators would
be certifably insane, which they are NOT.

Fore exaample, while I do NOT like Kamala Harris, as you well now, those
BULLSHIT articles woudl classify her as a pycho, which she IS *NOT*. She
does troll Donals Trump on Twitter. While she may be a lot of undesirle
THINGS, she is NOT a psycho of any kind, yet those BULLSHIT articles that
Tatz Ziki and Sang Froid keep quoting would classify her that way.

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/opinion/the-conversation/sd-kamala-harris-twitter-rants-at-trump-20170203-htmlstory.html

That is why those articles from the ies ot Psychology today are a load of
HORESHIT that would fertilise the Sinai.

Harris is a lot of undesiable things, but she is NO psycho, which is an
example of why thoise articles from Psychology today, Time, and Slate are
all a BUNCH OF *BULLSHIT*, and will be blocked on all company computers
here. In fact, the ENTIRE psuchology today site is BLOCKED. In addition to
porn, and a few other office-inappopriate categories, we also block
environmentalist sites. That's right, one of the filtering programs we use
does allow environmental activism to be blocked. Sites belonging to groups
like Greenpece or the Sierra Club. The websites of both groups are blocked,
well as the Earth Liberation Front, World Widlife Fund, and similar sites.
And that DOES include sites thiat trumpett the BULLSHIT abuot man made
global warming.

And Terry and his minions at PDXISS are not going to want to hear this, but
the filtering vendors we use all have the PDXISS site blcoked under several
categories. Filtering vendors never did like PDXISS very much. When the Bess
filtering system, aimed mostly at educatiinal users, existed in the late 90s
and early 00s, they were one of the first filtering companies to block
PDXISS. They considered the Portland Ice Skating Society website to be
inappropriate for schools. It appears that PDXISS annoyed someone at the
company that was making. it.

[Sang Froid]

Chuckie is a "troll" and IS psycho.
Chuckie is certifably insane.

Truth.

undesiable

English much, dumbfuck?

Take your stupid lies and eat shit and die, trolling asshole.

Chuckie shits his pants and trolls some more.

You are certifiably insane. You are a pants-shitting troll.

NOBODY GIVES A FLYING FUCK ABOUT ANY OF YOUR STUPID LYING TROLLING
CRAP, YOU DEMENTED TROLLING ASSHOLE! N-O-B-O-D-Y!

Shut the fuck up, you lying drooling mentally ill trolling psychopathic
shitstain.

http://time.com/4457110/internet-trolls/

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/your-online-secrets/201409/internet-trolls-are-narcissists-psychopaths-and-sadists

http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/climate_desk/2014/02/internet_troll_personality_study_machiavellianism_narcissism_psychopathy.html

*Internet Trolls Really Are Horrible People*
Narcissistic, Machiavellian, Psychopathic, and Sadistic.
By Chris Mooney
February 14, 2014

In the past few years, the science of Internet trollology has made some
strides. Last year, for instance, we learned that by hurling insults and
inciting discord in online comment sections, so-called Internet trolls
(who are frequently anonymous) have a polarizing effect on audiences,
leading to politicization, rather than deeper understanding of
scientific topics.

That's bad, but it's nothing compared with what a new psychology paper
has to say about the personalities of trolls themselves
[http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0191886914000324].
The research, conducted by Erin Buckels of the University of Manitoba
and two colleagues, sought to directly investigate whether people who
engage in trolling are characterized by personality traits that fall in
the so-called Dark Tetrad: Machiavellianism (willingness to manipulate
and deceive others), narcissism (egotism and self-obsession),
psychopathy (the lack of remorse and empathy), and sadism (pleasure in
the suffering of others).

It is hard to overplay the results: The study found correlations,
sometimes quite significant, between these traits and trolling behavior.
What's more, it also found a relationship between all Dark Tetrad traits
(except for narcissism) and the overall time that an individual spent,
per day, commenting on the Internet.

In the study, trolls were identified in a variety of ways. One was by
simply asking survey participants what they "enjoyed doing most" when on
online comment sites, offering five options: "debating issues that are
important to you," "chatting with others," "making new friends,"
"trolling others," and "other." Here's how different responses about
these Internet commenting preferences matched up with responses to
questions designed to identify Dark Tetrad traits: 2

To be sure, only 5.6 percent of survey respondents actually specified
that they enjoyed "trolling." By contrast, 41.3 percent of Internet
users were "non-commenters," meaning they didn't like engaging online at
all. So trolls are, as has often been suspected, a minority of online
commenters, and an even smaller minority of overall Internet users.

The researchers conducted multiple studies, using samples from Amazon's
Mechanical Turk but also of college students, to try to understand why
the act of trolling seems to attract this type of personality. They even
constructed their own survey instrument, which they dubbed the Global
Assessment of Internet Trolling, or GAIT, containing the following items:

* I have sent people to shock websites for the lulz.

* I like to troll people in forums or the comments section of
websites.

* I enjoy griefing
[http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=griefing] other players
in multiplayer games.

* The more beautiful and pure a thing is, the more satisfying it
is to corrupt.

Yes, some people actually say they agree with such statements. And
again, doing so was correlated with sadism in its various forms, with
psychopathy, and with Machiavellianism. Overall, the authors found that
the relationship between sadism and trolling was the strongest, and that
indeed, sadists appear to troll because they find it pleasurable. "Both
trolls and sadists feel sadistic glee at the distress of others," they
wrote. "Sadists just want to have fun ... and the Internet is their
playground!" 3

The study comes as websites, particularly at major media outlets, are
increasingly weighing steps to rein in trollish behavior. Last year
Popular Science did away with its comments sections completely, citing
research on the deleterious effects of trolling, and YouTube also took
measures to rein in trolling.

But study author Buckels actually isn't sure that fix is a realistic
one. "Because the behaviors are intrinsically motivating for sadists,
comment moderators will likely have a difficult time curbing trolling
with punishments (e.g., banning users)," she said by email. "Ultimately,
the allure of trolling may be too strong for sadists, who presumably
have limited opportunities to express their sadistic interests in a
socially-desirable manner"

[Jeanne Douglas]

Post by Fritz Owl

[subject line restored]
[hogwash snipped]
Those articles you keep quoting are all a bunch of psychobbble hogwash. I
consider pychology, as a college major, to be a waster of tuition money.

And still you refuse to tell us what, precisely, in that article is
"hogwash". Why is that?

So-called "trolls" are NOT psychos or anything else. If that were the case,
a sizeable chunk of Internet users, including some Congressm Senators would
be certifably insane, which they are NOT.

Why do you claim that "a sizeable chunk of Internet users" are trolls?
And what do you consider a "sizeable" chunk? 90%? 80%? 50%? 25%? 10%?

[Fritz Owl]

Post by Jeanne Douglas

Post by Fritz Owl

[subject line restored]
[hogwash snipped]
Those articles you keep quoting are all a bunch of psychobbble hogwash. I
consider pychology, as a college major, to be a waster of tuition money.

And still you refuse to tell us what, precisely, in that article is
"hogwash". Why is that?

So-called "trolls" are NOT psychos or anything else. If that were the case,
a sizeable chunk of Internet users, including some Congressm Senators would
be certifably insane, which they are NOT.

Why do you claim that "a sizeable chunk of Internet users" are trolls?
And what do you consider a "sizeable" chunk? 90%? 80%? 50%? 25%? 10%?

That also PROVES *WHY* thaose articles are nothing bunch of HORSESHIT. It is
these articles that are saying so-callled trolls are psychos when they ARE
*NOT*

That is why I snip the copy of the articles he posts, reaplacing with
"bullshit snipped", ot something tothat effect.

So-called "trolls" are *NOT* PSYCHOS!!!!

[Jeanne Douglas]

Post by Jeanne Douglas

Post by Fritz Owl

[subject line restored]
[hogwash snipped]
Those articles you keep quoting are all a bunch of psychobbble hogwash. I
consider pychology, as a college major, to be a waster of tuition money.

And still you refuse to tell us what, precisely, in that article is
"hogwash". Why is that?

So-called "trolls" are NOT psychos or anything else. If that were the case,
a sizeable chunk of Internet users, including some Congressm Senators would
be certifably insane, which they are NOT.

Why do you claim that "a sizeable chunk of Internet users" are trolls?
And what do you consider a "sizeable" chunk? 90%? 80%? 50%? 25%? 10%?

<snippage of a ridiculously so non-answer to my question>

Try again. Your answer must contain an actual number, the % number.

[Sang Froid]

Chuckie is a "trolls" and *IS* PSYCHO!!!!

Take your stupid lies and eat shit and die, trolling asshole.

Chuckie shits his pants and trolls some more.

You are certifiably insane. You are a pants-shitting troll.

NOBODY GIVES A FLYING FUCK ABOUT ANY OF YOUR STUPID LYING TROLLING
CRAP, YOU DEMENTED TROLLING ASSHOLE! N-O-B-O-D-Y!

Shut the fuck up, you lying drooling mentally ill trolling psychopathic
shitstain.

http://time.com/4457110/internet-trolls/

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/your-online-secrets/201409/internet-trolls-are-narcissists-psychopaths-and-sadists

http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/climate_desk/2014/02/internet_troll_personality_study_machiavellianism_narcissism_psychopathy.html

*Internet Trolls Really Are Horrible People*
Narcissistic, Machiavellian, Psychopathic, and Sadistic.
By Chris Mooney
February 14, 2014

In the past few years, the science of Internet trollology has made some
strides. Last year, for instance, we learned that by hurling insults and
inciting discord in online comment sections, so-called Internet trolls
(who are frequently anonymous) have a polarizing effect on audiences,
leading to politicization, rather than deeper understanding of
scientific topics.

That's bad, but it's nothing compared with what a new psychology paper
has to say about the personalities of trolls themselves
[http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0191886914000324].
The research, conducted by Erin Buckels of the University of Manitoba
and two colleagues, sought to directly investigate whether people who
engage in trolling are characterized by personality traits that fall in
the so-called Dark Tetrad: Machiavellianism (willingness to manipulate
and deceive others), narcissism (egotism and self-obsession),
psychopathy (the lack of remorse and empathy), and sadism (pleasure in
the suffering of others).

It is hard to overplay the results: The study found correlations,
sometimes quite significant, between these traits and trolling behavior.
What's more, it also found a relationship between all Dark Tetrad traits
(except for narcissism) and the overall time that an individual spent,
per day, commenting on the Internet.

In the study, trolls were identified in a variety of ways. One was by
simply asking survey participants what they "enjoyed doing most" when on
online comment sites, offering five options: "debating issues that are
important to you," "chatting with others," "making new friends,"
"trolling others," and "other." Here's how different responses about
these Internet commenting preferences matched up with responses to
questions designed to identify Dark Tetrad traits: 2

To be sure, only 5.6 percent of survey respondents actually specified
that they enjoyed "trolling." By contrast, 41.3 percent of Internet
users were "non-commenters," meaning they didn't like engaging online at
all. So trolls are, as has often been suspected, a minority of online
commenters, and an even smaller minority of overall Internet users.

The researchers conducted multiple studies, using samples from Amazon's
Mechanical Turk but also of college students, to try to understand why
the act of trolling seems to attract this type of personality. They even
constructed their own survey instrument, which they dubbed the Global
Assessment of Internet Trolling, or GAIT, containing the following items:

* I have sent people to shock websites for the lulz.

* I like to troll people in forums or the comments section of
websites.

* I enjoy griefing
[http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=griefing] other players
in multiplayer games.

* The more beautiful and pure a thing is, the more satisfying it
is to corrupt.

Yes, some people actually say they agree with such statements. And
again, doing so was correlated with sadism in its various forms, with
psychopathy, and with Machiavellianism. Overall, the authors found that
the relationship between sadism and trolling was the strongest, and that
indeed, sadists appear to troll because they find it pleasurable. "Both
trolls and sadists feel sadistic glee at the distress of others," they
wrote. "Sadists just want to have fun ... and the Internet is their
playground!" 3

The study comes as websites, particularly at major media outlets, are
increasingly weighing steps to rein in trollish behavior. Last year
Popular Science did away with its comments sections completely, citing
research on the deleterious effects of trolling, and YouTube also took
measures to rein in trolling.

But study author Buckels actually isn't sure that fix is a realistic
one. "Because the behaviors are intrinsically motivating for sadists,
comment moderators will likely have a difficult time curbing trolling
with punishments (e.g., banning users)," she said by email. "Ultimately,
the allure of trolling may be too strong for sadists, who presumably
have limited opportunities to express their sadistic interests in a
socially-desirable manner"